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    If California voters legalize pot, whole world will feel the effect

    If California voters legalize pot, whole world will feel the effect

    By Andres Oppenheimer


    MEXICO CITY — If California voters approve a proposition calling for the legalization of marijuana in the Nov. 2 midterm elections, get ready for a domino effect in Mexico and the rest of Latin America. It is not likely to be immediate, but it will be hard to stop.

    Granted, the Obama administration would most likely challenge Proposition 19 in the courts if it were approved.

    Most polls show that the California proposal has a better than even chance of passing. But during a visit to Mexico, I found few people in political, academic and business circles who don't believe that passage of Proposition 19 would have a big impact on this country.

    It will be very hard for the Mexican government to keep up its U.S.-backed anti-drug policies, especially when it comes to cracking down on the marijuana trade, they said. How can the United States ask Mexico to keep up the fight against marijuana smugglers if the drug becomes legal in California? Ricardo Najera, spokesman for Mexico's attorney general's office, told me that the Mexican government will continue its military offensive against the drug cartels regardless of what happens in California, but added that approval of Proposition 19 would have a "demoralizing impact" on Mexico.

    "If one country authorizes something that is prohibited in another country, it creates a very big problem for the country that is combating that particular crime," Najera said. "It would discourage authorities that are working on that front."

    The last two Mexican presidents, Ernesto Zedillo and Vicente Fox, have already come out publicly in favor of decriminalizing — or, in Fox's case, legalizing — marijuana production and consumption.

    President Felipe Calderón's government opposes legalization, but Calderón has said he is open to holding a national debate about it.

    Several of the likely candidates for Mexico's 2012 presidential elections have already said they will support legalization of marijuana if California votes for it.

    Marijuana sales to the United States generate about $1.5 billion a year for Mexico's drug cartels, and account for between 15 and 26 percent of the Mexican cartels' overall income, a new RAND Corporation study says.

    But experts disagree on whether legalization of marijuana in California would drain Mexico's drug cartels of much income, or reduce their violence. This is because California is already a major producer of marijuana, and the cartels could always turn to other illegal activities to make up for their lost marijuana income.

    The Calderón government would most likely not shift toward legalization of marijuana if the drug is legalized in California because it has invested too much political capital in the war on drugs, which has claimed more than 28,000 lives over the past four years. More likely, Calderón would support moves within the United Nations to change international drug policies, many experts say.

    "If California approves Proposition 19, we may see a snowball effect," said Luis Astorga, a drug policy researcher with the National Autonomous University of Mexico. "Many countries, such as Germany, the Netherlands and Portugal are likely to ask the United Nations to call for an international convention on marijuana, similar to other conventions that were held in 1961, 1971 and 1988. That would likely lead to a change in the world legal framework that deals with marijuana."

    It would be a good idea to call for a U.N. convention to establish once and for all whether — as marijuana legalization proponents say — marijuana is less addictive and harmful than alcohol or tobacco.

    If that proves to be the case, then legalize marijuana, and use the billions of dollars now being spent on marijuana repression to help fund education campaigns and treatments to fight harder drugs such as cocaine and heroin.

    At any rate, if Proposition 19 is approved, the impact will be greater abroad than in California, where medical use of marijuana has long been legal, and possession of small amounts of the drug are barely punished with the equivalent of a speeding ticket.

    Pro-legalization forces around the world would get one of their biggest boosts ever.

    Oppenheimer is a Latin America correspondent for the Miami Herald. E-mail: aoppenheimer@miamiherald.com.

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    Source: http://www.sacbee.com
    In: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/10/27/313...ia-voters.html

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    Re: If California voters legalize pot, whole world will feel the effect



    Francotiradores de ideas sin temor al equívoco y sin asunción de responsabilidad en la exposición de ideas. Talibanes de la autocomplacencia.
    "El que sabe debe. Y el que no hace lo que debe, crea karma" Maxima tibetana.

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    Re: If California voters legalize pot, whole world will feel the effect

    Today is the big day.

    Just have a look at a real voting paper:



    -t_

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    Re: If California voters legalize pot, whole world will feel the effect

    Unfortunately isnt this time yet

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    Cool Re: If California voters legalize pot, whole world will feel the effect

    California lovee

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    Re: If California voters legalize pot, whole world will feel the effect

    Desires from a spanish guy: unban cannabis in every country
    The moment is now.
    All united we can-nabis!!
    Tu corazón, mitad de coca y de caballo
    como me vuelvas a decir
    que estas de mono, te machaco.

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    Re: If California voters legalize pot, whole world will feel the effect

    califa , is now the best city off grower cannabis...
    Quase 100 mil vão pro estadio, compram o ingresso
    Mas nem metade fazem um protesto na frente do congresso
    Desordem em progresso, com a ordem o regresso
    País da ilusão, do carnaval e do sucesso

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    Re: If California voters legalize pot, whole world will feel the effect

    Wow, that's really really nice.

    I'm pretty sure that Portugal will legalize it!

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    Re: If California voters legalize pot, whole world will feel the effect

    some day will get there i hope

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    Re: If California voters legalize pot, whole world will feel the effect

    Well, soon or later everyone will realize the real point in living and stop discriminating the weed.

    Im not saying that the real point in live is smoking weed all day, no.

    But Government just discrminates it because it's called a drug bla bla bla. What would they lose IF they legalized it? Is it that hard?

    Why do we have such bad thoughts about this plant and its effects? I cant really get it. I mean, you grow up thinking that weed is bad because someone thought you that since you were born, think about a situation where you born, everyone says that weed is the best medicine (or something like that ahaha) and you wont even think about hiding the fact that weed is great.


    Our administration is imature and ignorante. All they know is talking sht about e/o. It annoys me up.

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    Re: If California voters legalize pot, whole world will feel the effect

    Poll Shows Voters Split on Legalizing Marijuana

    A new statewide poll shows voters evenly divided on the question of legalizing marijuana as the state Legislature takes up the question next week. The Elway Research poll of 411 randomly selected voters found 48 percent in favor and 45 percent opposed to legalization, which is likely headed to the November 2012 ballot in the form of Initiative 502. The margin of error is 5 percentage points.

    The initiative, run by a campaign called New Approach Washington, heads to the Legislature first, but will be on the presidential ballot unless lawmakers approve it.

    The support softened from an Elway poll in July, when 54 percent, asked a more general question about marijuana legalization, expressed support.

    Pollster Stuart Elway said that downward trend should concern initiative sponsors. Conventional wisdom says an initiative should start with support in the mid-60s because undecided voters usually vote against ballot measures.

    “If you’re a supporter, it’s going the wrong way,” he said.

    The initiative would legalize and tax one-ounce sales of marijuana to people 21 and over, and authorize privately-owned, state-licensed marijuana retail stores and grow operations. Washington voters in 1998 allowed medical marijuana for authorized patients, but they haven’t had a chance to vote on full legalization.

    Elway said the campaign needs to sway women voters, who were far less likely to support legalization (52% men, 43% women), and to ensure young voters (69% of voters under 35 support) turn out to vote.

    Alison Holcomb, campaign director for New Approach, noted the Elway poll question was broadly worded, without mentioning provisions in I-502 — including an estimated $215 million in marijuana tax revenue earmarked for health and drug-abuse prevention programs — that are popular with voters.

    “Our research over the years have shown us that voters really care about what the details are,” she said.

    New Approach, using paid signature gatherers, turned in more than 341,000 signatures to the Washington Secretary of State in late December. The prime opposition thus far has been medical-marijuana patients, who say I-502′s driving-under-the-influence provisions would inhibit their ability to work and live while using legally authorized medicine.

    Source: Seattle Times (WA)
    Author: Jonathan Martin
    Published: January 4, 2012

    I've seen this movie before... How the hell prop. 19 missed

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