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Origins of Haze I started reading the "True Origins of Haze" thread then got bored and irritated by all the fighting and flaming that had nothing to do with the subject. You see it all over the internet whenever Haze is mentioned. Wtf? I've been growing over 30 years so I'll tell you my experience of Hazes. Yes there was a haze line apparently from the Haze brothers and it changed annually as they added more sativas to the line. At one point you could get Haze #1 through #19 from various seedbanks. The first of these Haze lines that I grew out were huge plants (trees) and the seeds came from Switzerland and California and Canada. At the time they were the biggest, fastest, hardest to control plants out there. It wasn't till the Dutch got hold of them that the line became smaller, weaker, spindly and "delicate" because they selected for growing under lights and threw out all the super sativa phenos. It was a big thing back then amongst the Dutch growers about who would "tame" the Haze plant for growing under lights. There wasn't just Haze brothers Haze though. Virtually every seedbank in existence at that time jumped in with a Haze line. Any killer sativa strain ened up being called Haze and was often sold as Haze brothers Haze. Then there was a lot of breeding by seedbank growers crossing Haze brothers Haze with other sativas just to prevent loss of vigour through inbreeding. There is/was nothing wrong with this at all and is in fact the correct thing to do from a breeding perspective. Haze is after all nothing more than a mix of handpicked sativas and the truth is that anybody with access to pure landrace sativa lines can create a Haze line just as good or better.... if they can get decent genetics. Haze got screwed up when indica genetics and polyhybrids like NL5 were introduced to the line. It also got screwed up when so called "breeders" inbred the line and took all the wonderful genetic diversity out of it. True haze conceptually is a pure sativa line. End of story. I can tell you as somebody who has bred cannabis for thirty years that once you put indica blood in a line... even in small amounts.... you never get rid of it. It comes back to bite you again and again no matter how much you try to breed it out. Not only do you lose the savage bite of a screaming racey sativa but you open the whole line up to mould issues. It is plain stupid and a lazy shortcut to try and bring down flowering time and increase bud density. The correct approach is to use a fast flowering sativa and they do exist. Personally I don't think it matters one little bit if it's Haze brothers haze or Mickey Mouse Haze. What matters is whether it has the killer racey Haze effect that used to be like grabbing a speeding train and hanging on for dear life as it dumped you down a worm hole into Alice in Wonderland's reality. From a breeder's point of view it is also about the genetics. We wanted the longest possible flowering sativas!!! Duh!!! We wanted to grow trees in the forest. We wanted plants that needed 9 - 18 months to mature. They're exotic and special and just plain kickass awesome. We didn't want to grow them under lights. Ever. Now they are gone. The Haze I remember has been extinct for a long time. I have however heard nothing but good things about Nevs Haze. I've resisted growing it for over ten years because of the NL5 content and because it just doesn't look right. I look for long skinny leaves and a bamboo growth pattern when I'm looking for a killer sativa. Still it's not fair to say anything bad about a plant I haven't personally grown so I'm thinking I might do an outdoor Nev Haze grow and hit it with some Malawi or Lao just to boost the pure sativa content. scrubdog Last edited by scrubdog; 04-21-2012 at 12:05 AM.
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que más puesto envidioso, tal vez con el cambio climatico...., el invierno pasado maño fue supercálido, estoy seguro que si la hubiera cultivado le habría sacado mucho partido.
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