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  • Re: Criadores de cannabis

    La primera y unica vez que he tenido una Original Haze pura (tambien era la primera vez que tuve una sativa 100%) le notaba de joven los foliolos demasiado anchos para mi gusto, aunque era por la obsesión que tenía con tener una sativa pura al 100%, que desconfiaba,

    Precisamente la Angola Roja X Banghi es una de las sativas de las que no tengo dudas sobre su legitimidad y procedencia que muestran hojas que a mi me parecen de índica, aunque obviamente no lo son. Así que posiblemente en parte le puede venir de ahí. Tambien he visto fotos de Malawis con una hojacas lechugonas que parecen indicorras al 100%.

    Tengo unas plantas acreditadamente sativas y con aspecto totlamente sativo, espero que el colocón tambien lo sea y no me decepcione

    Un saludote.
    http://www.cannabiscafe.net/foros/sh...70#post1238970

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    • Re: Criadores de cannabis

      Durante muchos años y al igual que muchos otros, pensé que "R"(R.R.),el dope connoisseur de la revista High Times era Robert Clarke...
      Pues va a ser que no ...es un tal Ron Rosenbaum
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      • Re: Criadores de cannabis

        Originalmente publicado por Raco Ver Mensaje
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Sam_Skunkman
        "A 8-10 week Haze could be made. It would require an Original Haze that was a bit faster, crossed with a very early Sativa like my S African Durban Poison. Then select the F1's for Haze taste & smell & potency and as fast flowering as possible and make F2's. If you grow out enough F2's you will find one that is Haze but fast flowering. But it may take a few hundred or even thousands of plants to find what you really want, a fast flowering Haze"

        Muchas gracias por el apunte

        Hace algún tiempo me rondaba por la cabeza por medio de retrocruzamientos, hacer algo así y precisamente con la Durban.

        El problema es que siendo un carácter poligénico hacen falta muchas plantas para seleccionar y no tengo sitio para tantas.

        Por otra parte las Durban tampoco son tan rápidas por lo qeu he visto y leido.

        Un saludote.
        http://www.cannabiscafe.net/foros/sh...70#post1238970

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        • Re: Criadores de cannabis

          Me abstengo de entrar en esa conversación ^^ sobre las hojas etc ...sería como un re-secuestro (un secuestro elevao al cuadrado ) ...podríamos estar discutiéndolo unas cuantas páginas pero este tema solo lo abordaría con una cajas de sidra o birras delante

          + madera :-)

          shantibaba,sobre la G13, Marzo de 2009

          "Hi All

          well read most of the thread and got to mention a few things that bother me.

          First Neville offered the G13 originally and it was never copied ...only a decade later when Soma and Reeferman bought some old hybrid seeds from Nevil through third parties did it appear again in other companies. The original G13 mother died and only seed existed from the early 90s onwards. No one including Arjan ever had access to Nevil and my library of mothers and fathers...just what was on the greenhouse list pre 98...but considering no one kept things alive they were forced to use F1 seed to gain back things...but even then there was no access to G13 in any pure form.

          So now that Medical seeds are offering G13 as a feminised seed or other companies are offering G13 hybrids...well they are only names with distant relation to the originals. People renamed things and use a common name to piggy back their new seed on to the market. Why would I tell the growers that G13 mother died if I was only interested in making money from other people's dreams of owning something pure? It is not my or Nevilles way so it is not the truth that so many of these G13 strains survived so well through time.
          Since I re-released G13 skunk and G13 widow some years back the piggy backers took off again...and the legend was rekindled. Whatever you all believe I find it most difficult to believe there is a pure G13 alive. The best that could be expected would be an old F1 seed or even F2 seed...but most of the time it is a new breeder using an old name to sell his wares.It does not help anyone except that breeder and it would be best for them to rename it with affiliated origins attached to G13 in some way. I am really afraid that all these ways of new companies do not help clarify an urban myth but propagate it to the maximum.Those who believe what is written rather than research perpetuate the myth and so it goes on and on and on...just like this G13 myth. I am sorry to all of those who really educate themselves but the facts are so evident , if it were not for money makers in this industry maybe people who start their own seed companies would name their own seeds with original names and stop confusing the masses.

          All the best Sb"




          Tambien tenemos aqui un post interesante de Reeferman,tambien de Marzo 2009 :-)


          Reeferman
          Banned

          "I do not wish to go into the g13 debate the best version of g13 I have had so far is the airborne g13 cutting , I am about to obtain a cutting that was sold by nevil in 86 to a canadian who has maintained it since .
          The nevil cutting does exist still because nevil lost it does not mean that it is gone .
          As with NL#5 it was not a clone it was a seed line from washington state .
          The G13 cutt is still here I will put a end to the debate about nevils cutt vs airborne vs pacifics very soon .

          I also recently bought 70 seeds of shanti's g13 skunk #1 hybrid to examine those as well .
          I will announce my intentions with g13 later the AB cut has been important afghani to me in my work it breeds true and imparts strength from the indica side without effecting terpenes profile of the strains I use to breed it with in short its tastes like the father line I use .
          I have a rm g13 line that I hope will be at hemp depot soon I used a White widow to outcross the AB cutt and bx'ed 3 times the WW was close to the terpene profile of the g13 but adds a little stretch ! I was trying to use something that would maintain the g13 traits if I used a tasty male it would less authentic .

          Reef"


          "The G13 cutt is still here I will put a end to the debate about nevils cutt vs airborne vs pacifics very soon ."


          ^^
          Editado por última vez por Raco; https://www.cannabiscafe.net/foros/member/2541-raco en 27/03/2011, 00:09 .
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          • Re: Criadores de cannabis

            pa flipar...
            es que en realidad todo este tipo de temas,hay gente que no los comprende...a cualquiera que le digas algo de la g13 te dira que la original es de sensi seeds..
            por eso hay que poner nombre a las cosas,pero con un poco de cuidado...

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            • Re: Criadores de cannabis

              ............por san google....


              + Madera :-)

              shantibaba, Sobre la G13, Marzo de 2009

              "Hola a todos

              y leer la mayor parte del hilo y llegó a mencionar algunas cosas que me molestan.

              En primer lugar Neville ofrece el G13 original y nunca fue copiado ... sólo una década más tarde, cuando Soma y Reeferman compró semillas híbridas de edad de Nevil a través de terceros hizo que vuelva a aparecer en otras sociedades. original se murió la madre de El G13 y las semillas sólo existe desde principios de los años 90 en adelante. Nadie como Arjan ha tenido acceso a Nevil y mi colección de madres y padres ... justo lo que estaba en la lista de efecto invernadero antes 98 ... pero teniendo en cuenta que nadie mantiene las cosas vivas que se vieron obligados a utilizar semillas F1 para recuperar las cosas ... pero incluso entonces no había acceso al G13 en cualquier forma pura.

              Así que ahora que las semillas medicas están ofreciendo G13 como una semilla feminizada u otras empresas están ofreciendo híbridos G13 ... así que sólo son nombres con un pariente lejano de los originales. La gente renombrada cosas y usar un nombre común a cuestas sus nuevas semillas en el mercado. ¿Por qué le digo a los productores que la madre murió G13 si estaba interesado sólo en hacer dinero de la gente de otros sueños de ser dueño de algo puro? No es mi manera o Neville por lo que no es la verdad que muchas de estas cepas G13 sobrevivido tan bien a través del tiempo.
              Desde que volvió a publicar zorrillo G13 y G13 viuda hace algunos años los partidarios alcancía despegó de nuevo ... y la leyenda se reavivó. Hagas lo que todos creen que tienen más dificultades para creer que existe un G13 con vida pura. Lo mejor que se podría esperar sería una semilla F1 de edad o incluso las semillas F2 ... pero la mayoría de las veces se trata de un criador de nuevo con un nombre antiguo para vender su wares.It no ayuda a nadie, excepto que obtentor y sería mejor para ellos para cambiar el nombre de origen afiliados adjunta a G13 de alguna manera. Estoy realmente miedo de que todas estas formas de nuevas empresas no ayudan a aclarar un mito urbano, pero se propagan a la maximum.Those que creen lo que está escrito en lugar de perpetuar el mito de la investigación y así sigue y sigue y sigue ... sólo como este mito G13. Lo siento a todos aquellos que realmente se eduquen, pero los hechos son tan evidentes, en caso de no ser por los responsables de dinero en esta industria, tal vez las personas que comienzan su propia empresa de semillas que el nombre de sus propias semillas con nombres originales y dejar de confundir a las masas.

              Todo lo mejor Sb "




              Tambien expect post aqui sin Interesante de Reeferman, tambien de Marzo 2009 :-)


              Reeferman
              Prohibido

              "No quiero entrar en el debate G13 la mejor versión del G13 que he tenido hasta ahora es el G13 de corte en el aire, estoy a punto de obtener un corte que se vendió por Nevil en 86 a un canadiense que ha mantenido desde entonces.
              El corte Nevil existe todavía porque Nevil perdido no significa que se ha ido.
              Al igual que con NL # 5, no era un clon fue una línea de semillas del estado de Washington.
              El Cutt G13 todavía está aquí voy a poner fin al debate sobre la frente Nevils Cutt Pacifics vs el aire muy pronto.

              También me acaba de comprar 70 semillas de Shanti G13 Skunk # 1 para examinar los híbridos también.
              Voy a anunciar mis intenciones con G13 más tarde, el corte AB ha sido afghani importante para mí en mi trabajo engendra la verdadera fuerza e imparte desde el lado indica sin afectar el perfil terpenos de las cepas que se utilizan para criar con en fin de sus gustos como el padre la línea que uso.
              Tengo un G13 rm línea que espero que sea en el depósito de cáñamo antes he usado una viuda de Blanco a la polinización cruzada de la Cutt AB y bx'ed 3 veces la Primera Guerra Mundial se acercaba al perfil de terpenos del G13, pero agrega un tramo de poco! Yo estaba tratando de utilizar algo que mantendría el G13 rasgos si usaba un hombre rico que sería menos auténticos.

              Reef "


              "El G13 Cutt todavía está aquí voy a poner fin al debate sobre la Cutt Nevils vs Pacifics vs el aire muy pronto".
              .

              . . . .



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              • Re: Criadores de cannabis

                soma compra G13 y llena medio catalogo de híbridos
                Tu corazón, mitad de coca y de caballo
                como te atrevas a decir
                que estas de mono, te machaco.

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                • Re: Criadores de cannabis

                  Shhh... dirás que yena el catalgo con "hibridos skunk".... que es otra cosa


                  Saludos.

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                  • Re: Criadores de cannabis

                    y Afghanis..

                    Le salva que la Somango es una delicia... porque por lo demás mucho paz y amor que mientras estas despistado te robo 4 ramas
                    Tu corazón, mitad de coca y de caballo
                    como te atrevas a decir
                    que estas de mono, te machaco.

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                    • Re: Criadores de cannabis

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                      El famoso Cannabis Castle :-)





                      Patty Collins signing the Cannabis Cup Poster in the Quentin Hotel[/CENTER]










                      "Palace in Wonderland"
                      Before there was a Judge Judy. Before there was a Judge Joe Brown. There was Judge Patty "The First Lady Judge of Cannabis" Patty Collins Owner/Operator of Pype's Palace in Portland Oregon since 1976 was High Time Magazine's First Lady Judge in 1989 and the First Celebrity Judge to be a Repeat Celebrity in 1998. High Times invited her back in 1998 to Judge how the strains had changed over the past decade. They put her up at the Hotel Quinten in Amsterdam, Holland. Had a banquet with food seasoned with spices befitting the occasion. After dinner they passed the samples out to the 11 Celebrity Judges. Over 20 seed companies supplied the samples for the Judges. Some where packaged in ways only the Dutch can do. The finest coming from Nevil "The King of Cannabis" it was a silver suitcase with all of his finest! She went on stage to hand out the Cannabis Cup Awards. And they introduced her as "The First Lady of Cannabis"! The rest of her family were there as regular judges. Her son Donnie and nephew Troy. Her husband Don, had to double as a judge and be Patty's BUDdy Gaurd. Her article about the 1998 Awards was published in the May '99 issue of High Times Magazine. There was a story about the 1989 Awards in a '90 issue. Before there was a book called the Marijuana Bible. There was an unknown author, Jorge Cervantes. This unknown author was then and still is a Pype's Palace - Pipes Palace customer. This customer decided to write a book for gardeners. So he came in the store and asked Patty what type of book was needed. She advised him that all of the books that were on the market at that time were much too technical reading for the average person. And she thought he should write a layman's version gardening book. He did and has been a hit ever since. Jorge was coincidentially a Celebrity Judge in 1998 too! It was like a Pype's Palace - Pipes Palace Reunion half way around the world!

                      Celebrity Judges recieved many samples to test.

                      Greenhouse Seeds gave a very impressive sample case.
                      Judges Samples from Sinsi-Seeds
                      Patty tests all types in the order in which it was recieved
                      All the Judges Samples given to Patty for the 11th Annual Cannabis Cup 1998
                      All the Judges Samples given to Patty for the 2nd Annual Cannabis Cup 1989
                      Patty as a Joint
                      Don as a Bong
                      Troy Follett's (Pype's Palace Hood River) One Ounce Joint!
                      Patty helps on the One Ounce Joint rolled by Troy Follett of the Hood River Pype's Palace

                      Patty under cover of crop destined for the compost pile!
                      Biggest buds I've ever seen! A foot thick. Squeezed between the palms not the fingers!
                      Patty examining the outdoor crop at the Cannabis Castle in Amsterdam. This crop usually molded on the vine before it's time.
                      Patty would not have been smiling here, had she known these plants would have a chainsaw taken to them 20 minutes after this photo was taken. Patty had to help cut them down and she got to throw them on the compost pile. This was a seed company and these plants were seedless, so they had to go...

                      The Royal Drying Wall at the Cannabis Castle in the Netherlands. 1989. This was our wall to pick as we pleased...
                      Just could not keep Patty out of the garden!
                      Patty at the Bull Dog Coffeeshop. Notice the Menus they used to use back then.
                      Guess Who?
                      The dark plant at the rear area is the Original Pure Haze Plant.
                      Don takes a group of tourists to the Cannabis Castle. Don had World's Greatest Tours. The First tour company to take people to the Cannabis Castle, every 6 weeks from 1987 - 1990
                      The Imfamous Compost Pile at the Cannabis Castle.
                      Sometime all 3 stalls were filled with pure Cannabis Pulp. The juices that ran from these piles always stimulated the imagination of each tourist that saw it. Looked like the bubbling black gold from the Hillbilly's show.
                      Patty Collins, Jorge Cervantes and other Celebrity Judges.
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                      • Re: Criadores de cannabis

                        siempre es un placer ver tus enlaces raco....como molan esas cajitas de prueba

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                        • Re: Criadores de cannabis

                          Originalmente publicado por Raco Ver Mensaje
                          Me abstengo de entrar en esa conversación ^^ sobre las hojas etc ...sería como un re-secuestro (un secuestro elevao al cuadrado ) ...podríamos estar discutiéndolo unas cuantas páginas pero este tema solo lo abordaría con una cajas de sidra o birras delante

                          + madera :-)

                          shantibaba,sobre la G13, Marzo de 2009

                          "Hi All

                          well read most of the thread and got to mention a few things that bother me.

                          First Neville offered the G13 originally and it was never copied ...only a decade later when Soma and Reeferman bought some old hybrid seeds from Nevil through third parties did it appear again in other companies. The original G13 mother died and only seed existed from the early 90s onwards. No one including Arjan ever had access to Nevil and my library of mothers and fathers...just what was on the greenhouse list pre 98...but considering no one kept things alive they were forced to use F1 seed to gain back things...but even then there was no access to G13 in any pure form.

                          So now that Medical seeds are offering G13 as a feminised seed or other companies are offering G13 hybrids...well they are only names with distant relation to the originals. People renamed things and use a common name to piggy back their new seed on to the market. Why would I tell the growers that G13 mother died if I was only interested in making money from other people's dreams of owning something pure? It is not my or Nevilles way so it is not the truth that so many of these G13 strains survived so well through time.
                          Since I re-released G13 skunk and G13 widow some years back the piggy backers took off again...and the legend was rekindled. Whatever you all believe I find it most difficult to believe there is a pure G13 alive. The best that could be expected would be an old F1 seed or even F2 seed...but most of the time it is a new breeder using an old name to sell his wares.It does not help anyone except that breeder and it would be best for them to rename it with affiliated origins attached to G13 in some way. I am really afraid that all these ways of new companies do not help clarify an urban myth but propagate it to the maximum.Those who believe what is written rather than research perpetuate the myth and so it goes on and on and on...just like this G13 myth. I am sorry to all of those who really educate themselves but the facts are so evident , if it were not for money makers in this industry maybe people who start their own seed companies would name their own seeds with original names and stop confusing the masses.

                          All the best Sb"




                          Tambien tenemos aqui un post interesante de Reeferman,tambien de Marzo 2009 :-)


                          Reeferman
                          Banned

                          "I do not wish to go into the g13 debate the best version of g13 I have had so far is the airborne g13 cutting , I am about to obtain a cutting that was sold by nevil in 86 to a canadian who has maintained it since .
                          The nevil cutting does exist still because nevil lost it does not mean that it is gone .
                          As with NL#5 it was not a clone it was a seed line from washington state .
                          The G13 cutt is still here I will put a end to the debate about nevils cutt vs airborne vs pacifics very soon .

                          I also recently bought 70 seeds of shanti's g13 skunk #1 hybrid to examine those as well .
                          I will announce my intentions with g13 later the AB cut has been important afghani to me in my work it breeds true and imparts strength from the indica side without effecting terpenes profile of the strains I use to breed it with in short its tastes like the father line I use .
                          I have a rm g13 line that I hope will be at hemp depot soon I used a White widow to outcross the AB cutt and bx'ed 3 times the WW was close to the terpene profile of the g13 but adds a little stretch ! I was trying to use something that would maintain the g13 traits if I used a tasty male it would less authentic .

                          Reef"


                          "The G13 cutt is still here I will put a end to the debate about nevils cutt vs airborne vs pacifics very soon ."


                          ^^
                          Yo tenía entendido que el verdadero origen de la G13 era este otro

                          Originalmente publicado por Raco Ver Mensaje
                          Forget about nukes
                          I found the seeds myself while diggin on a Royal Kurgan,somewhere in the middle of Asia...
                          1 out of 300,000 popped and became the mother of the G13
                          I´m not going to say anything about the father..it´s my best kept secret...
                          :wink:
                          Originalmente publicado por Raco Ver Mensaje
                          just another made-up story...^^^
                          There are a few more G plants around...
                          All came from Ganimedes
                          I found mine in Royal Kurgan #13
                          end of the story
                          Originalmente publicado por Raco Ver Mensaje
                          lol!
                          I quit growin the G´s and share them with the world because I found another metheor,in another Kurgan,with different genetics from a different Galaxy
                          that´s all :wink:

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                          • Re: Criadores de cannabis

                            ^^^

                            En las fotos de mi post anterior,salen 2 personajes bastante escondidos:

                            "Hazed again" ---> Jack Herer (RIP)
                            "Guess who?"---> Nevil

                            A veces B_H escribe posts muy interesantes,como este ,recién puesto

                            Today, 07:27 PM
                            british_hempire





                            Quote:
                            Originally Posted by davesnothere
                            Yeah you are right on about some of the real afghans not all being stocky with fat leaves. Last season I grew a pack of Real Seed Company's afghani outdoors and most were much taller and had skinny leaves just like you said. And a longer flower period than you would think with afghani.

                            Do you think some of those taller afghani's have some sativa in there? Or do they just grow taller for some reason, the higher in elevation?




                            I think those taller afghanis are adapted to the conditions they are native to. Vavilov studied and wrote about them as did RCC. They are found (when not cultivated) at higher elevations between the lower, cultivated areas and the snowline. I'm confused on the whole indica/sativa classification thing.

                            My experience with landrace Afghanis has led me to believe that they are capable of spitting out a wide variety of types and with several gens of selection you could isolate a number of quite distinct types so when people talk of Afghanis there is a lot of different types and traits they could be referring to.

                            The short, squat, broadleafed classical hashplant we used to think of as the archetypal Afghani indica is what they used to cultivate in the lowlands prior to the Soviet invasion. Examples of these include things like Deep Chunk, Afghani #1, Petrolia Headstash, some of the stuff Nev had like the NLs etc.

                            I am not sure what these are, they could be native lowland types but I suspect they are the result of man's selection for resin production over hundreds of years. Maybe they began with the native landraces that Vavilov wrote about and isolated the hashlant type, I could believe that with years of selection you could isolate a hashplant type from something like the RSC Mazar-i-Sharif. Alternatively, the squat, broaf-leaved indica type is said to originate in China and could have travelled down the Silk Road to Afghanistan and that is the origins of the lowland Afghani hashplants. The Chinese types may have been low potency and were crossbred with the native types for potency and resin production.

                            Someone will have to gene profile the remaining landraces and cultivars before we can really know what begat what and what is related to what.

                            The highland types are often used for hand rubbing, I expect this is how hash was first produced in Afghanistan, this is probably how all hash was made in the early times. The techniques and silk materials needed to make sifted hash would have come from China at some time in the distant past. The lowland hashplant cultivars are developed for sifting so I expect their development happened gradually over a period of time after silk for screening and the knowledge to do so arrived. I doubt the original highland landraces were all that good for sift production, certainly not compared to the hashplants, we all know how resinous and more importantly, how easily the resin heads seperate with most of the classic indica types such as Deep Chunk and NL5. I know from experience that the landrace Afghans are very different in that regard - they have smaller, less easy to detach resin and most of them have much less resin coverage, in fact, a lot of them would be said to lack resin by modern standards. When max yield in weight of resin that can be extracted by sifting is the end goal (and it was in Afghanistan for centuries) then I would muxh rather grow a field of hashplant type lowland Afghans than I would highland landrace Afghans, at a guess, I would way the hashplants would yield 3x as much in sifted resin, 2x at the very least.
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                            Al final,la DC et alter va resultar que son chinas en origen .Yo prefiero pensar que la DC era el "material" de Alejandro Magno

                            PD:
                            Por cierto,el hilo ese está que arde uffffff...

                            http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/4-talk-sh...html#post97541
                            Editado por última vez por Raco; https://www.cannabiscafe.net/foros/member/2541-raco en 28/03/2011, 23:05 .
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                            • Re: Criadores de cannabis

                              pues chinas o no...no lo se...pero seria muy muy interesante saber de donde proceden en realidad...lo que si que es cierto es que son diferentes a todas las que he conocido hasta ahora...y es una caña

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                              • Re: Criadores de cannabis

                                Por si sirve de algo, en un número de la Softsecrets (anteriormente La María) venía una historia sobre el origen de las afganas donde sse decía que las plantas originales de aquella zona erán sativas.

                                También en la eciclopedia Espasa Calpe viene que unas de las mejores zonas productoras de hachís (charas) son Yarkand y Kashgar, en Xinkiang Uigur en China (por la misma región donde encontraron las momias de los tocarios, con maruja).

                                Y según cuentan los australianos en un post no recuerdo bien si de Icmag o de Mr Nice, las indicas tras varias generaciones en su clima tropical (supongo que por la zona costera del norte de Nueva Gales del Sur o Queensland) van volviendose mas altas y esbeltas y con foliolos más largos y finos.

                                En otro sitio tambien leí que tras muchos años de cultivar una variedad en una zona esta va adquiriendo las carácteristicas típicas que pudiese tener cualquier landrace de los alrededores o alguna de allí ya desaparecida. Lo cual a mi que soy de inspiración Darwinista me deja algo perplejo. Puede ser la respuesta adptativas a las condiciones de esa zona, pero hay muchas características que se fijan de modo aleatorio y la evolución no tiene porque volver a suceder de igual forma si se da más de una vez. Tambien esos cambios que cuentan ocurren demasiado rápido. No se

                                Una cosa que me intriga es la relación evolutiva del cannabis ya que parece que hay diferencias entre las sativas del sur de la India y las Thai.

                                La de Hunter Valley en Australia parece proceder de la India, pero la Mullumbimby Madness, supuesta descendiente suya, por la morfología no hay manera de comprobar si es de origen indio o tailandés.

                                Con las zamal y las africanas pasa otro tanto de lo mismo. O al menos no me aclaro.

                                ¿Procenden las variedades Thai de la India?¿La difusión de las sativas desde Asia hacia África partió de la India, de Indochina o de Indonesia con la colonización de Madagascar?¿O fué por el medio oriente en tiempos mucho más remotos?

                                La verdad que para ser una planta tan ligada a la historia del ser humano, se le está dando muy mal trato.
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